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What a pip is worth in money

Basics: how a trade and an account work3 min read
What you learn in 3 minutesA pip is the smallest standard step in a price quote. On AUD/USD, one pip is a move of 0.0001, so a quote of 0.6640 becomes 0.6641 after one pip. The money value of that pip is not fixed: it depends on the lot size and on the pair being traded, so the same twenty-pip move pays a different amount on different trades.
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A schematic diagram showing the last two decimal places of an AUD/USD quote stepping from 0.6640 to 0.6641, with the pip size 0.0001 labelled.

Lot size as the multiplier behind pip value

A lot is a standard bundle of units of the base currency. In the examples on this page the base currency is the Australian dollar, because the pair is written AUD/USD. The size of the bundle is what turns a price step into money. A mini lot is 10,000 units, a micro lot is 1,000 units, and a standard lot is 100,000 units. Some platforms also allow 0.01 lots, which is 1,000 units.

The arithmetic is the same at every size. Multiply the units by 0.0001 to get the pip value in the quote currency, which here is the US dollar. Then divide by the AUD/USD rate to express that figure in Australian dollars. If the rate is 0.6640, one pip on 10,000 units is 10,000 x 0.0001 = US$1.00, and 1.00 / 0.6640 = A$1.51, rounded to two decimals.

This is why the same twenty-pip move pays different amounts. Twenty pips on 10,000 units is 20 x A$1.51 = A$30.20. Twenty pips on 1,000 units is one tenth of that, A$3.02. The price move is identical in both cases. Only the number of units changes, and the units are chosen before the trade is placed.

A common error is to compare trades by pips alone. Two trades can both gain twenty pips and still produce results that differ by a factor of ten. The pip count describes the market. The lot size describes the position. Money depends on both.

Pip value when the pair is quoted in another currency

The formula above works because the quote currency is the US dollar and the account currency is the Australian dollar. When a pair is quoted in a different currency, the conversion step changes. The pip value first appears in the quote currency of that pair, and it must then be converted into Australian dollars at whatever rate applies to that conversion.

Suppose a pair is quoted in Japanese yen. One pip is still a step of 0.01 in the quote, not 0.0001. The pip value in yen depends on the lot size, and turning yen into Australian dollars uses the AUD/JPY rate, not the AUD/USD rate. A platform may show the result directly, or it may show the figure in the quote currency and leave the conversion to the account.

Brokers differ in how they handle this. Some convert automatically at the prevailing rate. Some show pip value in the quote currency and convert only when the position closes. The rate used at conversion may be the rate at entry, at exit, or a rate set by the broker. These details vary between brokers, and the platform documentation is the place to check them.

The practical point is that pip value is not a property of the pip. It is a property of the pip, the lot size, the pair, and the account currency taken together. Change any one of those and the money figure changes.

Spread, commission and rounding in the final figure

The pip values calculated so far are gross figures. They ignore the cost of entering and leaving the trade. On most platforms the quoted price comes with a spread, which is the gap between the price at which the platform will buy and the price at which it will sell. The spread is usually measured in pips, and it is paid on entry.

A spread of one pip on a 0.05-lot AUD/USD trade costs roughly A$0.75 at a rate of 0.6640, using the same arithmetic as before. Some accounts charge a commission instead of, or as well as, a wider spread. Commission is usually a fixed amount per lot per side, and it varies between brokers. The gross result of a trade is reduced by these costs before any net figure is reached.

Rounding is the last adjustment. Platforms often round pip value to two decimal places, and the executed rate may differ slightly from the rate used in the calculation. A stop level may also be filled at a different price from the one requested. None of this changes the method. Work out the gross figure, subtract the spread and any commission, and treat the result as an estimate rather than an exact amount.

For planning, the estimate is enough. If the estimated loss on a stop is already larger than the amount the account can lose without affecting other plans, the trade is too large regardless of the small adjustments. The purpose of the calculation is to make that judgement before the trade is placed, not after.

Twenty pips on 0.10 lots of AUD/USD

StepAmountNote
Lot size0.10 lotsone tenth of a standard lot
Units of base currency10,000 AUD0.10 x 100,000 units in a standard lot
Pip size on AUD/USD0.0001the fourth decimal place is the standard pip step
Value of one pip in USDUS$1.0010,000 x 0.0001 = 1.00 unit of the quote currency
AUD/USD rate used0.6640the example rate; the live rate will differ
Value of one pip in A$A$1.511.00 / 0.6640 = 1.5060, rounded to two decimals
Value of twenty pips in A$A$30.1220 x 1.5060 = 30.12

The broker may round the pip value, quote a slightly different rate at the moment of execution, and charge a spread or commission on top. On AUD/USD the pip value in A$ moves whenever the AUD/USD rate moves.

Doing it once, step by step

The following steps show how to work out the pip value for a specific trade and then check whether the planned stop fits the account. Do them once with the numbers given, then repeat with your own.

  1. 01

    Write down the pair and the rate

    Note the pair, for example AUD/USD, and the current rate, for example 0.6640. Identify which currency is the base and which is the quote. In AUD/USD the base is the Australian dollar and the quote is the US dollar.

  2. 02

    Convert the lot size into units

    Multiply the lot size by the number of units in one lot. A 0.05-lot position is 0.05 x 100,000 = 5,000 units. A 0.10-lot position is 10,000 units. Write the figure down before continuing.

  3. 03

    Multiply units by the pip step

    For a pair quoted to four decimal places, one pip is 0.0001. Multiply the units by 0.0001. For 5,000 units the result is 5,000 x 0.0001 = US$0.50. This is the pip value in the quote currency.

  4. 04

    Convert into Australian dollars

    Divide the quote-currency figure by the AUD/USD rate. At 0.6640, 0.50 / 0.6640 = A$0.75, rounded to two decimals. If the pair is quoted in another currency, use the appropriate conversion rate instead.

  5. 05

    Multiply by the stop distance

    Count the pips between the entry price and the stop level. Multiply that number by the pip value in Australian dollars. A 30-pip stop on A$0.75 per pip is 30 x 0.75 = A$22.50 before costs.

  6. 06

    Compare with the amount the account can lose

    Subtract any spread and commission to get a rough net figure. Compare that figure with the amount the account can lose without affecting other plans. If the stop loss is larger, reduce the lot size and repeat the calculation.

The mistake most people make here

The common mistake is to treat a pip as a fixed amount of money. It is not. One pip on 0.10 lots of AUD/USD is about A$1.51 at a rate of 0.6640, but one pip on a full standard lot is ten times that, and one pip on a pair quoted in a different currency is converted at a different rate. Before placing a trade, work out the pip value for the exact lot size and the exact pair, then multiply by the number of pips in the planned stop. If that number is larger than the amount the account can lose without affecting other plans, the trade is too large.

Check yourself

A trade is 0.05 lots of AUD/USD at 0.6640. What is one pip worth in A$?

0.05 lots is 5,000 units. One pip is 5,000 x 0.0001 = US$0.50. At 0.6640, that is 0.50 / 0.6640 = A$0.75, rounded to two decimals.

The same 0.05-lot trade moves 30 pips in the trader's favour. What is the gross result in A$?

One pip is A$0.75, so 30 pips is 30 x 0.75 = A$22.50 before any spread, commission or rounding.

Questions that come up next

How do I work out pip value for a lot size the page did not list?

Multiply the number of units by 0.0001 to get the value in the quote currency, which is US dollars on AUD/USD. Then divide by the AUD/USD rate to express that figure in Australian dollars. For example, 0.01 lots is 1,000 units, so 1,000 x 0.0001 = US$0.10, and 0.10 / 0.6640 = A$0.15. The same steps apply at any size.

Does the pip value change while a trade is open?

On AUD/USD the pip value in Australian dollars moves whenever the AUD/USD rate moves. That is because the conversion from US dollars to Australian dollars uses the live rate. The change is usually small over a short trade, but it means the figure you calculated before entry is an estimate. Brokers may also round the pip value, so the executed amount can differ slightly.

What is the difference between a pip and a point?

A pip is the smallest standard step in a price quote, which is 0.0001 on AUD/USD. A point is smaller. Many platforms quote AUD/USD to five decimal places, so one pip equals ten points. The distinction matters when a platform shows a price of 0.66405 rather than 0.6640. Always check how the platform labels its smallest increment.

How do I use pip value to decide if a trade is too large?

Work out the pip value for the exact lot size and pair. Multiply that by the number of pips in your planned stop. Compare the result with the amount the account can lose without affecting other plans. If the loss is larger than that amount, the trade is too large. The pip count alone does not tell you the risk.

Why is the pip value different on a pair quoted in yen?

On a yen-quoted pair, one pip is a step of 0.01, not 0.0001. The pip value first appears in yen, not US dollars. To express it in Australian dollars you use the AUD/JPY rate, not the AUD/USD rate. Brokers differ in when they convert, so the figure shown may vary.

Can I deposit using PayID, BPAY or a card?

Many Australian brokers accept PayID, BPAY and cards for deposits. The methods available and any fees vary between brokers. Check the broker's own payment page for the current options. ASIC regulates brokers that operate in Australia, but payment handling is set by each broker.

In Australia

Regulator
ASIC regulates retail forex and CFD providers that offer services to clients in Australia.
Account currency
An Australian resident can usually open an account funded in AUD, but the base currency of the account is set by the broker.
Funding methods
PayID, BPAY and cards are common ways to move money into a trading account; the exact methods vary between brokers.
Example instrument
AUD/USD is quoted with four decimal places, so one pip is 0.0001; around 0.6640 in this lesson.
Pip value in A$
On one standard lot of AUD/USD, one pip is 10 units of the quote currency, converted at the current rate; at 0.6640 that is about A$15.06.

The words used on this page

Pip
The smallest standard step in a price quote. On AUD/USD one pip is 0.0001, so a quote of 0.6640 becomes 0.6641 after one pip. On yen-quoted pairs one pip is usually 0.01.
Lot
A standard bundle of units of the base currency. A standard lot is 100,000 units, a mini lot is 10,000 units, and a micro lot is 1,000 units. Some platforms allow 0.01 lots, which is 1,000 units.
Base currency
The first currency in a pair. In AUD/USD the base currency is the Australian dollar. Lot sizes are counted in units of the base currency.
Quote currency
The second currency in a pair. In AUD/USD the quote currency is the US dollar. Pip value first appears in the quote currency, then is converted to the account currency.
Spread
The gap between the buy price and the sell price. It is a cost on every trade. The spread is separate from pip value and is charged on top of it.
ASIC
The Australian Securities and Investments Commission. It regulates financial services in Australia, including brokers that offer forex and CFDs to Australian residents.

What to take away

  • A pip is a price step, not a fixed amount of money. Its money value depends on lot size and on the pair.
  • To find pip value in A$ on AUD/USD, multiply units by 0.0001, then divide by the AUD/USD rate.
  • The same twenty-pip move pays different amounts on different lot sizes. Compare trades by money at risk, not by pips alone.
  • Check the pip value for the exact lot size and pair before you trade. If the planned stop loss is larger than the account can bear, the trade is too large.
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